Do you sometimes genuinely hate your OTP and I mean hate as in that you just want to stop them from existing because honestly it’s like they are sucking you down into this black hole and you’re trying your best to hang on to the little sanity you have left but oh shit your hand just slipped and it’s into the black hole you go
Your job is now your Time Lord name. The last digit of your phone number is the current regeneration you are in. The nearest clothing item to your right is now the most notable item in your current wardrobe. The last person you texted is your current companion. Your favorite word is now your catchphrase.
I don’t consider River Song awesome just because she shoots guns, is sexy, and uses innuendo. Please do not assume that about everyone who likes River and Moffat’s characterization of her.
I consider her awesome because she may love and adore the Doctor, but she also sees the flaws in him. She continuously looks the Doctor in his face, calls him on his bullshit, and shows him when he’s straight up wrong.
I want to marry this post and raise a family of perfect little posts. And then I want those posts to go out into the world and spread their amazingness and maybe have their own perfect post families and basically what I’m trying to say is EVERYONE READ THIS.
I do like River Song a lot. I think a lot of the ambiguity on her timeline and what makes her an interesting plot is a little… too contrived? That’s not entirely unlike wrong, but I’ll leave it. The character however, is fascinating in a way I don’t think we get to see other companions be. Every companion that gets separated from the Doctor for a lengthy period of time (save maybeeee Sarah Jane) seems to spend their time being badass while trying to get back. I fully believe that if River Song got separated from the Doctor somewhere for an extended period of time, yes she’d be looking for him, but she’d go and do her own thing too, and have a blast doing it.
I dunno, maybe it’s just how fun Ms. Kingston is. But I do like River.
I’d love to agree with this post if “The Wedding of River Song” hadn’t reduced River to a Bella Swan. No, really, you raised a lot of good points here. River does call the Doctor out on his shit and all that. She was completely right to say “why aren’t you asking for help, you dunce!?” in “Wedding” - but she did it at the cost of the universe, for the Doctor. The one thing I’ve always trusted was that River is stronger than that, she knows better. Maybe it’s like Tori said, the timey-wimey-ness of it all complicated things. It’s not impossible to believe that River, at the point in time she was at in her personal timeline, would’ve behaved that way. But we’re used to this intense, swash-buckling River Song.
It’s like if we were introduced to Season 7 Dawn on Buffy (who I love), and then in her final appearance she’s Season 5 Dawn. I’d absolutely remember her as being appalling. When you do character development backwards, you run the risk of the character becoming unlikeable because they had to grow into a better person.
Complicated. Good word. Poor River.
^Ah, a Bella Swan reference…Well, I’ll get to that in a bit.
Like both of you said, I think a lot of it is the fact that we’re seeing her going backwards. Perhaps that makes it hard for people to reconcile young reckless River and older wiser River, but it doesn’t bother me at all. I am thoroughly enjoying watching her timeline going backwards. I constantly remember that fact each time we see her and then I mentally slot her into place along her timeline when I can see where she is.
As for River in TWoRS, I completely understood why she chose her own personal feelings over the universe. This is River near directly after impulsive, selfish, and manic assassin Mels. Even though it was a short while, Mels was depicted as always thinking about herself: her own wants and desires.
I agree with basically everything. You, my friend, are good with words. ;)
I even agree with the Bella Swan digression. I’m usually annoyed by all these comparisons to Bella, wich is far from perfect but not worth the hate she gets. Remember Juliet in Romeo and Juliet, Emma in Madame Bovary, Esmeralda in Notre Dame de Paris. They’re exactly like Bella but it’s absolutely fine… Well, that’s not the main point of this post and I fully agree with your analysis of her love for Edward anyway.
But I wouldn’t change anything to River’s story. I think Steven Moffat always knew where he was going to and led it perfectly from the beginning to the end, more exactly from the end to the beginning! You can’t change a part of her story without changing all the rest. She’d be non-sense if something was different. But that’s my opinion. Though it was surely possible to make sense of her character by developping her differently. I just don’t think it could be better. But I basically worship Moffat and everything he choses to do, maybe I’m not very objective. ;)